Also, I believe one of the developers even stated on these boards that you could not reduce a lvl 1 or higher spell to a 0-level cantrip. I took furious as it adds damage Level 7 bonus feat - Quicken Spell - This is for later onIdeal Traits: Wayang Spellhunter- (Perfection spell) Lore Seeker (RotRL trait): Pick 3 spells and increase CL and DC for those 3 spells by +1. that gives you an impressive 3d4+6 fire attack, right from level 1. For an Ascetic-Dragon TWF build, a single level of MoMS is all that's needed to secure both hands having full Power Attack and Dragon Style. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. Wayang Spellhunter a nice lvl 1 spell, like Ear Piercing Scream or whatever, and you can Toxic it still at level 1, and Quicken Toxic it as a level 5. Any help folks? I'm not even sure this is a viable concept, I just thought it would be cool after I was reading about the unchained barbarian and them getting. Their eyes are yellow or white, and their hair is stringy and slithering. The first affects metamagic level gain on a single spell, the second drops the spell level, and so would stack normally as different types. A crossblooded white draconic / orc sorcerer with blood havoc as his bloodline feat, spell focus (evocation), wayang spellhunter (ray of frost), magical lineage (ray of frost), flagbearer, point blank shot, and liquid ice for a power component can spam empowered ray of frost for (1d3+6)x1. I have Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter (which my DM is allowing to stack, but not bringing it lower than the spells normal level which is moot for me but regardless) and for range I can use Shocking Grasp up to Medium range without raising the spell level. As Admixture, that Fireball can be fire, cold, acid, or electricity. My character went human so he could have both Irrisen Icemage and Extra Traits (Spellhunter and Gifted Adept. Can one take both Magical Lineage *and* Wayang Spellhunter on different spells? What about on the same spell? I know it wont matter for this character since both Ice Storm and Ball Lightning are 4th level spells and Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of level 3 or below. Is this possible of is there something I'm missing. You can cast the spell Fiery Shuriken as a (Cold) spell, attaching Rime spell to it to cause entangled with no save; the round you cast it, you fire shuriken at a couple targets you want to debuff. At level 2 you get 2 magic missiles. Wayang Spellhunter-- despite being brought up in the same forum contexts-- was never errataed in the same way, but the effect is almost exactly the same, to the point that the d20pfsrd people added an. Paizo Blog; Forums; PaizoCon; Community Use; GuidelinesNo because Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter actually do two different things. In regards to the traits, you can indeed only have one trait per category by default (though it's worth noting that while magical lineage is indeed a magic trait, metamagic master (which is correctly named wayang spellhunter) is a regional trait and is thus fine to take at the same time and does indeed stack if taken on the same spell), though there are a set of. this build roasts things, and is a very intuitive pyromancer. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter can make low level casters a lot more fun. Raven777. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . I believe it's been said somewhere that Magical Lineage and Wayang doesn't stack. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Otherwise you get silly munchkinism, like claiming that the FAQ restrictions on Magical Lineage don't apply to Wayang Spellhunter, or other such shenanigans regarding one-handed weapons like the Bastard Sword. Many argue that casting wish three times a day is not "an appropriate special ability for a creature of that HD" for a simulacrum. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one. Circle of Death is a 6th level wizard spell, so its base DC is 16 (10 + spell level). I recommend trying out Lineage and Wayang on Fireball and pick up. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. For debuffs your best option is to take magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for frostbite and the rime spell and authoritative spell feats. Better effect and you can apply your 0 cost metamagics as well. Advice. service@paizo. Also it doesn't target reflex, it's a touch attack; similar creatures. Take a +1 metamagic say toppling smack it on magic missile and apply magical lineage and then wayang spellhunter. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. Admixture will allow me to get around fire immune enemies, though it will reduce my damage by 1 per die from the sorcerer bloodline cheese. From level 6, you're possessing every enemy you meet. Wayang CR 1/2 Source Bestiary 4 pg. RSS FeedSimply install UnityModManager. That frees up my 7th level feat to grab something else of value to complete another feat chain or grab another hex. Scortching ray of course. I would need to pick one spell and live or die by it. Rocky Williams 530 :Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. due to OGL issues, some feats, traits, archetypes and so on have been renamed, for example Wayang Spellhunter becoming Metamagic Master, leading to players taking the same trait or feat twice. No, Wayang Spellhunter is bound by the same FAQ. So if you want to switch around Lineage/Wayang later in the game, you can do so with a bit of coin. And against the pure sorc, the wizard has elemental(any) substitution on the fly and possibly a higher caster level for bypassing SR because the wiz has more feats to work with. I realised that the feats Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both lower the level increase of metamagic by 1, and my DM allows them to stack on the same spell. XP 200. Or you could have him wear Glamered armor that actually isn't heavy, but looks like heavy. If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and getting a headband of charisma. Magical Lineage: Fireball, Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball. Fireball is good because it has a solid AOE and It's at a level that's decently accessible and also ripe for metamagic application (including being low enough for wayang spellhunter to apply). Also, I believe one of the developers even stated on these boards that you could not reduce a lvl 1 or higher spell to a 0-level cantrip. Free Empower. Fixed it. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell? EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. Of course, there's always the classic Wayang Spellhunter + Magical Lineage for the Arcane Mark cantrip. Combine it with dazing spell and its only weakness, unable to affect creatures larger than large, is rendered unimportant. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. " and. Since no (Wayang) in the name - I would say no. Unlike the related and formerly superior. Metamagic is your friend. Ahora yo creo que Andre generado durante esta actividad. They technically do different things, so there's. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Type: Wayangs are humanoids with the wayang subtype. Combined with other DC/CL tricks like the Arcanist's Potent. And who knows, maybe if you add additional material components like Alchemist's Fire, you might even create a permanently heal-burning party?Also, consider not taking Wayang Spellhunter right off the bat, and get Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage later with Additional Traits as a feat. Traits: Magical Lineage (Fireball), Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) Feats: H: Rime Spell 1: Empower Spell 3: Spell Focus (Evocation) 5: Spell Specialization (Fireball) W5: Varisian Tattoo (Evocation) 7: Intensify Spell 9: Greater Spell Focus 11: Greater Spell Specialization W10: Dazing Spell 13: Persistent SpellSign In; Cart . 2. Wayang Spellhunter Source Dragon Empires Primer pg. Spell perfection for one free metamagic feat. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . For traits a good choice are the metamagic reducing traits magical lineage/wayang spellhunter, that will reduce the spell level increase when applying metamagic feats to a spell ( a good spell to choose with these is snowball), or basic traits like reactionary (+2 init), or fate's favored, that works nicely with sacred tattoo (an alternative. Wayang Spellhunter is a Regional feat from Minata Isles. So they both allow you to treat fireball as a 2nd level spell for calculating its adjusted level, but they don't stack to decrease that further to a first level spell. Also, for your wizard class you probably want evoker (admixture) so that you can swap your fire spells into other elemental damage for all the monsters that have fire resistance. It'll be a little rougher between levels, oh, five and seven, as you have a lot more pull on your level two slots. It's irrelevant for spontaneous casters, but could be relevant for pepared casters thay might have a spell prepared with metamagic but not without. due to OGL issues, options limited to a certain region or deity don't list the limitation. Standard dex based scimitar build, magical lineage and wayang spellhunter on shocking grasp, no archetype. The reason for combat stamina is that it allows you to spend stamina points when using arcane strike to cause it to persist for a number of rounds. *Curses: +Lame/-Haunted* / *Revelation: Prophetic Armor* 3O. That way you can have an empowered enervation as a level 5 spell. Male wayang illusionist 1. . If you're playing a Blaster Mage, you need to select your key blasting spell and take Magical Lineage and maybe Wayang Spellhunter for it, so you reduce the cost of Metas attached to it. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? Another option would be to consider going for the draconic bloodline rather than elemental (lower spell selection ,though you could go for wayang spellhunter+elemental spell to get cold fireballs again, and the cold spells you'd have would hit harder) which gets you some natural armor to help defenses and more importantly opens up the dragon. Better effect and you can apply your 0 cost metamagics as well. His main spirit is Nature (and has the witch doctor archetype) but that is unimportant. The Morphling :If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and. At 3rd you'll have 3. Mad Magic does not work with your raging blood, although that rage is similar to bloodrage it is not bloodrage, so it will not function at all. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . This makes life worrisome for a sorcerer in general, but even moreso for a trapper. Aqueous Orb won't be the go-to solution. That's a reason why I don't take it. Magical Lineage: Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. Wayang spellhunter is a must, functionally identical to Magical Lineage, free metamagic on Shocking Grasp, Snowball or Frostbite (as appropriate to your build) is far too good to pass up. Cast Defensively in Pathfinder is a joke, in this instance SG = 1st level spell (-2 trait reduction from Magical Lineage + Wayang Spellhunter) = DC 17 Cast Defensively Check. The cheesiest traits would be Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, both keyed to Fireball to make it easier to cast metamagic fireballs (you would be able to use an empowered fireball at level 6). An arcane caster can then use the Flare cantrip to make someone unconscious for 1d3 hours. In addition, what sort of feats would help keep a Puppetmaster's plans from unraveling? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments. I'd also suggest considering wayang spellhunter for your second trait, preferably for snowball. 14 Category Region Requirement(s) Minata You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. Command, suggestion, and Greater command come to mind as great spells to increase DC and CL on. Also Quicken. 14 Category Region Requirement(s) MinataYou grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of. However, if your GM is cool with regional traits, you can pair Magical Lineage with Wayang Spellhunter. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Small: Wayangs are Small creatures and gain a +1 size bonus to their AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on combat maneuver checks and to their Combat Maneuver Defense, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. Side note: Metamagic Master is actually Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer. As a numbers example, a level 10 human with spell focus, varisian tattoo, and bloodmage initiate for evocation spell, spell specialization for fireball, intensify spell, empower spell, the orc and gold draconic bloodlines, and magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for fireball can throw out an empowered intensified fireball out of a. But these are both quite fragile arguments. Wayang spellhunter still does that. That being said, they are still very good traits regardless, because metamagic is very strong, and. What would be the best spell to put these two traits on? What metamagic or other feats would you add for extra optimization? : r/Pathfinder_RPG • 7 yr. So, by level 11 you can use a level 4 spell slot to throw a level 15 Empowered Battering Blast that does a total of 15d6x1. If you want something close pickup a staff that has your desired 1st level spell in it and you will be able to cast. Gifted Adept in the same spell is a decent pick, low level it's boosting damage, high level it's boosting your CL checks Vs SR. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. Since I don’t think there is one suggest your favorites. The entire goal of it is to cast Fireball. You can take the Magical Lineage & Metamagic Master (Wayang Spellhunter) traits to add more metamagic. 1 level dip for that + Wizard gets 4 more damage. Metamagic Rager. A human could take the Draconic Heritage alternate racial trait instead of skilled to get 10ft of darkvision (enough since this spell only has a 10ft radius), spend both feats to pick up Umbral spell and it's prerequisite Tenebrous spell at level 1, and grab wayang spellhunter and magical lineage to reduce the level increase to 0. For traits, grab magical lineage and wayang spellhunter, both for fireball. Though on paper it does look quite appealing. So: Traits:[b] Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp), Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp)[b]If they can stack then you can Empower Shocking Grasp in a 1st level slot. You could pick up Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter with the Additional Traits feat and retrain the feat whenever you want another spell to benefit from those two traits. Wayang Spellhunter reduces the level increase from metamagic of a single spell by one. I didn't know about Wayang Spell hunter. You could use the 2 traits on the same spell to reduce its metamagic adjustment by 2 levels, but IMO that gets awfully shady/cheesy, and is pretty clearly not RAI. 1Magus1 Spell Combat Spell Focus: Evoc, Spell special 2 Magus2 Spellstrike 3 Sorcerer1 Crossblooded Orc/Blue DragonIntensify Spell The advantages of the metamagic feat are spelled out in the Benefits section of the feat, and the increased spell slot level is a disadvantage. Power Attack 4O. If you're going to be relying on enchantment spells then you might like the spirit walker archetype to maximise your chance of applying those to undead, the most common creature type that's normally immune. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Wayang Spellhunter . And equal is not better. Also, I believe one of the developers even stated on these boards that you could not reduce a lvl 1 or higher spell to a 0-level cantrip. And with Wayang Spellhunter, that's 3rd in this case. Wayangs have access to the following feat. Wayang Spellhunter turns into Metamagic Master turns into yes, her teacher in magic loves his metamagic and passed that down to her. Good or Bad Idea? So I started playing TTrpgs with dnd 5e and have recently gotten more into pathfinder 1e, as I enjoy. I'd suggest something easier and durable with some combat options like a Monk 2, Magical Knack(Magic), Wayang Spellhunter(Region), or Resilient(Combat) traits, then Wizard(Diviner or Conjurer)(BO:Amulet, avoid Familiars). Rimed Frostbite is a popular debuff build, using the same traits to keep Frostbite at 1st level. Bear in mind that the Magus probably wants to use his swift actions on something else than reducing spell failure chance. Granted, when you are level 15, you don't need to worry about needing other level one spells, but still limits your flexibility. You will want other spells too of course. Archives. They technically do different things, so there's. 1Magus1 Spell Combat Spell Focus: Evoc, Spell special 2 Magus2 Spellstrike 3 Sorcerer1 Crossblooded. Maybe a bit too good that makes me wonder why not focus on conjuration instead. And like I've been saying, the abilities you use to discount the spell are irrelevant. Requirement (s) Minata. Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. a reach metamagic acid splash that is still level 0 (and therefore can be cast every round) can be nice. Select a spell of. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Illusions suffer heavily from the bonuses that targets get to their saves when they know it's an illusion, or. It's not the best, but I've enjoyed it: Magical Lineage on Major Image, and Wayang Spellhunter on Audiovisual Hallucination. —Pathfinder Design Team, 10/18/13. 5x the damage Levels 1-7, use Empowered Shocking Grasp in your 1st level slotsWayang Spellhunter (region trait) That's at least a +8 caster level boost! If you're lucky, if you pickup the traits with the Additional Traits feat, your GM may allow you to double their bonuses to caster level from the Spell Perfection feat. Wayang Spellhunter- Race restricted, can't use. So: Traits:[b] Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp), Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp)[b]If they can stack then you can Empower Shocking Grasp in a 1st level slot. Wayang Spell Hunter is better than a bonus to UMD. Level 7 – Dragon Disciple Blood of Dragons Natural Armor Increase (+1) Character Feat – Persistent Spell. As for the metamagic feats themselves, Persistent Spell and Quicken Spell seem mandatory. Heighten Spell is really the only metamagic feat that makes using a higher-level spell slot an advantage instead of a disadvantage. Something less cheesy, but still useful, would be to pick up an initiative boosting trait instead of Wayang Spellhunter, as you want to go first to blast the still grouped and. Level 6 – Wizard Bonus Feat – Empower Spell. Obviously this is probably cheese, seeing as Spell Perfection is arguably the most. The other FAQ willuwontu provided is questionably applicable. Wayang spellhunter and magical lineage both say you treat the spell's level as 1 level lower than its actual level for determining the adjusted level. Trait:Wayang Spellhunter: Fiery Shuriken. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter really make a lot of difference. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Dazing spell makes fireball a save or die spell. With wayang spellhunter and magical lineage you can cast an intensified, reach, empowered, maximized mythic force punch as an 8th level spell, 5th with spell perfection. Take a +1 metamagic say toppling smack it on magic missile and apply magical lineage and then wayang spellhunter. El secreto para esto es el primer matar a os en Espina (por ejemplo, tres), luego empezar a cerca de la actividad de trata de personas. If they "Overlap" then Magical Lineage brings it from 5 down to 4, and. Wayang Spellhunter reduces metamagic cost. I'd say drop either Slumber or Evil Eye. Saving throws vs Spell Slots Saves are a huge danger. So while the Paladins of Golarion are apparently all coming out. Mejor Respuesta. The fluff of actually being born there is well fluff. You're not going to be doing much damage. If you want to go more then quickened Ill omen route to help sabotage people’s saves for your shadow spells, then Magical Linage and Wayang Spellhunter (Regional) help a lot. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. Both allow you to apply a metamagic feat to a specific spell and reduce the total level by 1. The ones to increase the caster level are most likely Gifted Adept(magic) and Secret of the Impossibile Kingdom(Signature Spell on d20, region). 5 + 10, average 156. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. Probably Heighten or Maximize too. At 5th level, a metamagic rager can sacrifice additional rounds of bloodrage to apply a metamagic. Much sooner than level 12. For Example: Dazing Fireball as a L4 SpellAs the title indicates, this is explicitly a rules cheese spam. But my other trait is spoken for - Hermean Paragon (+2 trait bonus to Initiative) for flavor reasons. You could get Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter (Metamagic Master for legal purposes) and select [Fireball] for both, so you can toss around Empowered Fireballs out of third level slots, and at higher levels, use Empowered Intensified Fireball out of fourth level slots. What I want to do is use Benthic spell (and Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter) to maximize my ability to force Fortitiude saves or be prone with EVERY elemental spell I cast, while combining it with other unpleasant effects. I wonder weather I should just use Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite/Frigid touch and get rid of the intensified shocking grasp (focus on debuff and control). Then you attack one of those targets; entangled. 4) Mythic powers. Empowered Fireball as a 3rd level spell, 15d6+30. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage. It took two deadly difficulty encounters at once to take him down (technically he was only fighting one of them by himself, and won. If the GM doesn't allow swapping scribe scroll for spell. En el momento de salir de la cul-de-sac, de tu banda/estrella de nivel de amenaza que se Morningstar se generan. Of course, a GM may rule otherwise, but I wouldn't expect this reading to be accepted at an average table. Whichever of those you go for, put one trait on magical lineage or wayang spellhunter on the spell you're focusing on. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. LONG. As for traits, I’m okay with sacrificing Wayang Spell Hunter for sure (flavour doesn’t fit her anyway) and maaaaybe Seeker. Its called Wayang Spellhunter in Pathfinder material. 25 damage. I wanted to be an Arcane Trickster for pure flavor reasons, but the most important reasons were Ranged Legerdemain (Char lvl5 - lvl1AT) and Sneak Attacking with Spells (lvl 14+). Jan 9, 2021 @ 9:59am. 5 Go either Fighter or Slayer and grab the remaining feats in any order you want -> paired opportunists, coordinated charge, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Critical Focus, Improved Critical. Spell penetration is also rather useful depending on what sorts of enemies your GM throws at you. 2014-10-03, 08:27 AM. About the P. This has always been the case, which is why the suggestion for a spellslinger is usually Wizard 1/ Sorcerer X, because your wizard progression is so heavily nerfed by the archetype, and it doesn't affect your sorcerer spells at all. I think my character is close to be finished. Additional traits to get magical lineage is great, try to get wayang spellhunter too. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell's final adjusted level. 1. I do not know if Spell Perfection stacks with Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter. If you're specialising in one spell there are the metamagic cost reduction traits (wayang spellhunter & magical lineage) but that isn't required. You probably want to take both magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for your primary blast spell so you can get some free metamagic on it, with empower and (eventually) intensified both being good choices for damage, and rime spell is a nifty crowd control option. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. Greater spell focus is kinda weak for your limited feats. Pretty Sweet. Wayang Spellhunter is a regional trait Since the only restrictions on traits is that they have to be of different types it does look like you can have them both. Gifted Adept and Wayang Spellhunter for Magic Missile. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. A wizard 5/Sorcerer 1 with 23 Int, Admixture school specialization, Crossblooded sorc archetype with Orc+Solar or Dragonic bloodlines, Greater Spell Focus (evocation), Empower metamagic feat, and Wayang Spellhunter+Magical Lineage traits: (5d6+12)x1. At level 12, they could could have Whip Mastery, Lunge, and Combat Patrol, threaten a 30 ft radius, have 7 AOOs, and have each AOO deliver a Dazing Rime Frostbite: +20 to hit, dealing 1d3+3 damage from the. Pick one spell when you choose this trait. Select a spell of 3rd level. As a numbers example, a level 10 human with spell focus, varisian tattoo, and bloodmage initiate for evocation spell, spell specialization for fireball, intensify spell, empower spell, the orc and gold draconic bloodlines, and magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for fireball can throw out an empowered intensified fireball out of a. And equal is not better. . You use a 1st level pearl of power. DAY. Sign In; Cart . I got Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite for lots of entangling/fatigued action with Rime Spell I also took Pragmatic Activator so I can use UMD on alot of fun stuff I was originally going with the Flamboyant Arcana stuff but they nerfed the precise strike qualifications and all that so its not really worth it for my limited pool. Aug 16, 2012. Especially potent with VMC order of the stars cavalier, so that you have 1. I also wonder whether it is better to have a bladebound. 5 damage, plus maybe Sneak Attack, plus maybe push back. Another trait that comes to mind is the Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer which should stack with Magical Lineage as it is a different regional trait as opposed to a magical one. The flexibility is nice, but there are usually other ways to get those spells. Metamagic is your friend. Languages: Wayangs Metamagic Master. pathunwinder • 4 yr. At level 10 it will be an automatic 165 points. He’s spitting out a CL9 magic missile in a 1st-level slot, hitting up to 5 targets with a +21 trip attempt. Based on the wording of the Dwarf Sorcerer FCB's, I believe a Dwarf can change the damage type of Acid Splash with Elemental Spell without removing the Acid descriptor and therefore keep the FCB damage bonus. It seems to be a trait for Minata's people. Crypto+4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter comes to mind as a pretty thematic and dangerous option, doable by level 7 if you use Wayang Spellhunter to drop it to a level 3 spell. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter both apply to a single spell. Shadow Enchantment and only Shadow Enchantment qualifies for the trait Wayang Spellhunter, because only Shadow Enchantment is of 3rd level or lower. The shaman doesn't have any special requirements in traits. There was an artillery line of siege trees and treants hurling boulders at the walls. Starting with Grease adding the Alchemical Power Component Acid as a material component to add 1 point of damage. ; Perception +2. If you used Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, your Maximized Shocking Grasps would take up a 2nd level spell slot. Using Persistent Spell with them is very powerful and can make up for a lower natural DC, but you would probably want to have Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter to do that. Around level 8 this is what combat would look like if you are trying to make a fool out of the BBEG: Round 1: Drink mutagen-ale and cast Haste (via spell combat). CN Small humanoid (wayang) Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft. I doubt that this combination is anywhere near optimal, but on the other hand it could be potentially hilarious to say "I cast Ray of Frost" and toss a crap ton of. Looking for any critiques, gear recommendations, etc…I'll pick languages either based on character background ("I have Wayang Spellhunter? I better learn Wayang or Minatan, and Tien"), or on usefulness ("I summon monsters? Better learn Terran, Earth Glide is better if. No need to be fancy, just an overview. Magic trick doesn't increase spell level, but widen spell is a +3 spell level increase, so widen by itself brings it up to a 6th level slot. Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. Wayang Spellhunter = -1 If they stack it's 3+5-1-1=3, so it ends up up as a level 3 spell. Requirement (s) Minata. You have to leave room for a magic trait and a regional trait though. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . That said obviously some DMs will hold you to it, some won't. Thanks. You could then take empower spell at lvl 5 or better at lvl 7 and use it for every fireball spell you cast as it only costs you a 3rd lvl spell to use. That being said, they are still very good traits regardless, because metamagic is very strong, and. I've played Invulnerable rager UnBarbarian 2/Mutagenic mauler Brawler X with Dragon Style. I got inspired by the new Legacy of Dragons book to make a Charisma based Monk/Sorcerer. you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. . +1 trait bonus to Perception and it becomes a class skill. Sign In; Cart . He’s spitting out a CL9 magic missile in a 1st-level slot, hitting up to 5 targets with a +21 trip attempt. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Scrying is either useless or mandatory depending on the campaign in my experience. There was an artillery line of siege trees and treants hurling boulders at the walls. You're not going to be doing much damage. But these are both quite fragile arguments. The only thing I've come up with is kinda lame and that's taking the usual 2 traits to lower metamagic costs by 1 each: wayang spellhunter and magical lineage to use on the Aid spell. Good catch. Half-Orc Corsablooded Orc/Red Dragon or Gold Dragon Bloodlines. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. In regards to the traits, you can indeed only have one trait per category by default (though it's worth noting that while magical lineage is indeed a magic trait, metamagic master (which is correctly named wayang spellhunter) is a regional trait and is thus fine to take at the same time and does indeed stack if taken on the same spell), though there are a set of exemplar traits which are. BadBird. Dazing spell makes fireball a save or die spell. You know, I never noticed the level limit on Wayang Spellhunter before! Gray Warden wrote:Stack as much primary casting stat as possible (spells/day). Very clear. basically you can cast a. Intensify Spell 6. Per RAW of regional traits you only need to spend 1 year in the listed region to take a regional trait. this isnt referring to BEING wayang. exe, select the game, and then drag mod zip-files into the mod manager where it will automatically unpack and install them. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its. Sign In; Cart . You also need Rapid Reload by 3rd otherwise you won't be able to Spellstrike. Magical Lineage and/or Wayang Spellhunter are great traits if you are going the Metamagic shocking grasp route. Wayang Spellhunter says:"When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Taking the feat Additional Traits could allow you to get Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter for Command Undead. When used with a metamagic feat it’s spell slot is one lower than normal. I currently have the Wayang Spellhunter (Burning Arc) trait and am taking Spell Perfection at 15. I'm aware of Metamagic Master (Wayang Spellhunter). Long Arm increases your reach, letting you five-foot-step away from a foe and still Spell Combating them. The rest are good, true but no serious problem. 75), since maximize doesn't maximize the boost from empower spell. Heck if you wanna really go the Min max route you can take Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both for that spell to reduce the cost of metamagic on it by 2. Tons of benefits for both positive and negative channeling, and of course many variant channels are powerful in their own right. Traits: Wayang spellhunter (Snowball), birthmark (for the low Will saves) Arcane Bonded: Masterwork Composite Longbow Str adjusted +1 (1) Spells Memorized: 0: Acid splash (my go to for ranged spellstrike), detect. If they make the save they are still taking 67 damage. Brian Abend Puntos 61. Challenges. From what I have found Metamagic Master was renamed to Wayang Spellhunter and the above reference to the additional resources. It's possible to reduce the spell-level by 1 using either the Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter trait. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. We trade our 7th level bloodline feat for blood havoc. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2)I've been led to believe Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter stack if you pick the same spell, so that should give me Empowered Fireball as a third level spell to use with a rod. For your traits you can take magical lineage and wayang spell hunter. But I have been wondering for some time and just now remembered. Illusionist Spells Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +4) 1st — hypnotism (DC 14), silent image (DC 14), vanish. U-rogue 4 (thug) daring champion cavalier will have good saves, good skills and dex to damage with tricks using elven curve blade . Alternately, if you want to keep those, specialize in Shocking Grasp instead of Frostbite. It should be. The party sorcerer laid a wall of fire across the line. Business, Economics, and Finance. Deeply spiritual, they follow a philosophy known as "The Dissolution," which teaches that in passing they may again merge into the shadow. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. This increases in uses by one every 4 levels after this, so 2/day at level 7. Whichever of those you go for, put one trait on magical lineage or wayang spellhunter on the spell you're focusing on. 25 damage per d6. Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite or Shocking Grasp. I wanted to be an Arcane Trickster for pure flavor reasons, but the most important reasons were Ranged Legerdemain (Char lvl5 - lvl1AT) and Sneak Attacking with Spells. 274 XP 200 Male wayang illusionist 1 CN Small humanoid (wayang) Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft. For race human would be a decent choice just because of the extra feat. Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage is only a feat (Extra Traits) away, so by level 8 on a Sorcerer with Widen and Magic Trick(both), it would be 4 mini-fireballs at 5d6 each as a 4th level spell. Light and Dark (Su): See stat block above. It is limited in uses per day, but 5 of those is enough to solve most days problems. So unless your character is from Minata in Tian Xia, your GM might have an issue with it. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. Personally, I use it with maximize. The rest are good, true but no serious problem. That's Awesome. Wayang CR 1/2. Nov 5, 2012, 02:04 am. Quote: You can alter any spell that targets a single creature to become an authoritative spell. A Persistent Hideous Laughter is a level 3 spell that will make tough targets cry a lot of the time. Wayang Spiralling patterns cover this shadowy humanoid’s skin, and its black hair trails away in wisps. EDIT: Scratch that, it seems legit. Technically, they are not the same. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. Well, as I'm an Eldritch Scion it's a little harder (known spells as a Bard). The latter works the same way, but must be put towards a 3rd-level or lower spell. It's Wayang Spellhunter all over again and I thought the goal of PF2 was to eliminate fishing for such options. Religion. The d20pfsrd had it listed as Metamagic Master because they were asked to remove anything specific to the Golarion setting from the site, so they renamed Wayang Spellhunter to Metamagic Master. If you're human (two feats), at level 1 you can cast disruptive magic missiles. Shadowy Dash. my gnome illusionist uses it to have a threatening ghost sound to flank for people, if he has nothing better to do. Need Help? Mon–Fri, 10:00 a. Bear in mind that the Magus probably wants to use his swift actions on something else than reducing spell failure chance. This does assume a +6 headband. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Add in magical lineage traits (or maybe wayang spellhunter) and some metamagic feats and you can blow stuff up with the best of them. Especially good if you took either Magical Lineage or Wayang Spell hunter to Fireball. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Very clear. The Magus in the game I am running is the only arcane caster and he regularly uses other spells like Fireball, Web and Black Tentacles in combat.